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Meeting with Stanford - March 17, 2001
On March 17, 2001, a tri-neighborhood meeting was held with Stanford to
discuss planned development in Escondido Village, along Stanford
Avenue and El Camino Real, and at the Alza site at Hanover and
California Avenue. The meeting was well attended, with lots of folks
from the Sheridan area, Evergreen Park, and College Terrace. In
addition, a number of people from other neighborhoods joined us,
including County Planning Commissioner Terry Trumbull and City
Councilmember Bern Beecham.
The meeting was organized in two parts: Campus Development and
Research Park Development. For each topic, Stanford started with a
short presentation of their plans followed by an open discussion. The
rest of this page contains the notes taken at the meeting. As time
allows, other comments submitted in writing will also be added.
Campus Development
The first half of the meeting covered the campus development near
College Terrace: 1400
new single graduate student apartment units in Escondido Village and
along El Camino Real plus up to 75 faculty/staff housing units along
Stanford Avenue. Stanford presented plans for the first two units of
grad housing (which will be very similar to the recently constructed
units) and talked in more general terms about the faculty/staff
housing.
The following questions/answers, suggestions and concerns were raised.
Where no specific answer or response was given, none is listed.
- What level of staff are eligible for the faculty/staff housing?
Will they be rental units or sold?
- Faculty and senior staff are eligible for these units. They
will be sold.
- Stanford needs to address the needs of staff. There is a 25%
attrition rate.
- Stanford West has 630 units which will be priced at 1/3 below the
market rate. This is aimed at meeting the needs of mid-level staff.
- What level of increased traffic is expected from the
faculty/staff housing?
- This is not yet known but will be studied and the information
included in the application submitted to the county.
- The temporary parking lot along Stanford Avenue has been used as
a "work station" with storage of truck trailers, large chunks of
concrete being dumped into debris boxes creating noise and dirt
from 6:00 a.m. on, etc. We were promised that this was exclusively
for construction employee parking. What do we have to do to get this
stopped?
- Call Andy Coe (725-3329) or Susan Rozakis (723-1813).
- What Environmental Studies are being required for this development.
- There was an overall EIR included in the GUP/Community Plan
process and there will be additional more specific studies as required
by the county.
- Affordability of faculty/staff housing is a key issue
- 170 BMR (Below Market Rate) units are required under the GUP. A
separate meeting to discuss staff housing issues may be needed.
- What will the faculty/staff housing be like? The neighborhood is
concerned about traffic and visual impacts.
- Stanford expects to build 50 units, they're allowed up to 75.
Some clustering will be necessary and there may be some townhomes as
well as single family houses. It is unlikely that there will be any
driveways onto Stanford Ave.
- Will the traffic studies address cumulative impacts?
- This seems like a reasonable request.
- What's the limit of the Stanford population?
- This GUP doesn't really specify a specific number. Stanford is
required to do a sustainability or build-out plan which must be
approved by the County before they can begin the second half of the
allowed development under the new GUP.
- We're seeing an increasing problem with Stanford folks parking in
College Terrace.
- Stanford acknowledges that banning Freshman cars may have worsened
this problem. They are increasing the parking ratio for the new grad
housing and there is up to $100,000 available under the new GUP for
implementing permit parking in College Terrace.
- Will the faculty/staff housing along Stanford be aimed at
families or at couples?
- Most of it will be smaller units but some will be suitable for
families.
- Consider enhancing the Marguerite Shuttle to serve the expanded
Escondido Village population.
- Stanford will consider it. The shuttle is an important
component in their traffic management program.
- Consider creating a "transit way" through Escondido Village, a
narrow lane shared by the shuttle, bikes,
and pedestrians.
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- Parking charges should be raised to reflect the real costs. Also
consider supplying EcoPasses or some equivalent.
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- How does neighborhood cut-through traffic fit into the no net new
commute trips picture?
- The commute trips are measured at 11 intersections ringing the
core campus. Cut-through traffic (such as on Oberlin and Princeton)
isn't included. The neighborhood permit parking should help eliminate
cut-through traffic that doesn't actually enter the campus.
- The Escondido Road/Stanford Avenue intersection is extremely
hazardous. The parents dropping children off at Bing Nursery School
make Escondido hazardous for children walking and biking to the
elementary school. Since these trips originate on campus, move the
barrier to the other side of Bing and keep the trips on camps!
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- Cut-through traffic in the Sheridan area needs to be considered
in any traffic study relating to this development.
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- What protection do we have if the EIR projections regarding
development under this GUP are wrong? They were wrong last time.
- There will be two forums for presenting these concerns:
- A stakeholder group addressing Stanford Avenue/JSB issues will be
convened in the next month or two.
- A general citizens' advisory committee will also be convened and
will meet several times a year.
There are also some specific mitigations in the form of intersection
"improvements" (this means widening!) which Stanford must fund if
goals aren't met but it isn't clear that we really want that to
happen nor that they would restore our quality of life.
- How much growth is projected? (re: Hennesy's comment about slowing)
- Stanford doesn't have specific figures but does expect it to
slow.
- Any chance of closing the roads which connect Olmsted and
Stanford Avenue?
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- Please explain the concept of faculty/staff housing being "for
sale"? The University doesn't really sell land, does it?
- The house (or townhome) is sold but the land is on a
long term ground lease. When the occupant leaves, they re-sell the
house but only to a Stanford-qualified buyer.
- Event and construction traffic need to be included in any traffic
studies. We cannot do them piecemeal and ignore these important
components.
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- Electric bikes might be a good incentive to get the new residents
out of their cars.
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- Midtown is considering purchasing their own traffic monitoring
equipment. This might something for CT to consider (or even to go in
on!)
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- A walk/bike (paved/unpaved) path flanked by a double line
of trees along Stanford Avenue and El Camino
would be a nice amenity and would encourage non-auto transport.
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Research Park Development
The second half of the meeting covered Research Park development:
Stanford has offered to lease the Mayfield site (El Camino Real and
Page Mill) to the City in exchange for transferring 100,000 square feet
of development rights to other locations in the Research Park,
including 30,000 square feet to the old Alza site at Hanover and
California. This site currently has two buildings totaling 51,000
square feet but is zoned for 82,000 square feet. Stanford plans to
submit a project application for replacing the current structures with
a new two-story 82,000 square foot building.
The following questions/answers, suggestions and concerns were raised.
Where no specific answer or response was given, none is listed.
- Neighborhood is not thrilled with more building
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- Why is Stanford intensively developing adjacent to a neighborhood
instead of elsewhere in the Research Park?
- The intensity is what is allowed by City zoning. It will be
governed by ARB/Council review. [Councilmember Beecham commented that
he was pleased that Stanford was choosing to place part of it's
transferred development on a site that was already zoned for that much
development.]
- Why not housing? The LM zoning allows for it?
- Stanford is effectively giving the City the use of the Mayfield
site ($1 per year) so they need to receive compensation.
- What is the maximum build-out of the Research Park?
- 800,000 square feet is allowed in the "new" Comprehensive Plan.
Currently 613,000 is used.
- We need a new EIR governing development in the Research Park.
Usage has intensified and changed and the impacts are not as they
were.
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- The Mayfield site is zoned for housing. Why isn't the
transferred development housing?
- The offer Stanford made to the City specifies that the transferred
development may be any use permitted by the zoning of the target site
- in this case, office.
- Will the extra development built under the transferred development
rights be removed when the lease to the City ends in 51 years?
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- This is an opportunity to create housing. Instead we're creating
more jobs!
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- There has been a great deal of intensification of use along
California Avenue as evidenced by the huge parking lots full of cars.
Yet we pretend that it has no impact. The reality is that traffic is
having a major impact on our quality of life.
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- What kinds of traffic mitigations are possible?
Shuttle? Bike and pedestrian friendliness? Permit parking?
Traffic calming? Truck ban? We need protection from cut-through
traffic, red light running, unsafe driving near schools, pollution.
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- Hennesy talks about the need to improve community relations.
Increased intensity of use and massive construction projects in our
neighborhood seem insensitive. Building housing instead of office
would help heal community relations. So would doing something truly
radical such as creation of a mid-block circulation spine. [This
discussion of the circulation spine is important enough to have
its own page - please read about it!]
- Problems with implementing it include the fact that there are 50
year lease-holds in place - Stanford doesn't control the land. City
could use eminent domain but then they'd have to pay fair market rate
for the land!
- How many cars will be associated with the 82K of new development?
- City requires 3.3 parking spaces per 1000 square feet, therefore,
270 space.
- When the development currently underway at 1117 California was
being planned, we asked them to orient the front away from California.
They refused.
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- We need to control the traffic on California Avenue - perhaps
speed bumps, median trees. How can we get funding?
- There are traffic mitigation fees paid by developers in the
Research Park. Unfortunately the money is currently restricted to
intersection "improvements" (read "widening") at 8
intersections. Perhaps Council could revise this ordinance?
- Could the spine at least start with the Alza site? If we
don't start, we'll never get there.
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- In addition to rewriting the traffic mitigation fees for broader
use, perhaps Stanford could take some voluntary steps to compensate
the community for the impacts of the past growth.
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- There was an agreement when the Research Park was first developed
that there should be no parking in the neighborhood. Is this in
writing anywhere?
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- Noise is a massive problem: construction noise, white noise
(air conditioners and chillers for biotech clean rooms etc.), traffic
noise (delivery of cars to office occupants!!!), leaf blowers at all
hours. The Palo Alto ordinance does not deal with increasing levels
of ambient noise!
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- Light pollution is another major problem. Any new construction
should be required to install automatic
blinds, timers, motion sensors etc.
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- Does the construction and/or the commercial presence have
anything to do with the frequency with which residential power fails
in CT?
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- Would opposition to the Alza redevelopment jinx the Mayfield site
deal?
- The TDR provides a consideration to Stanford in return for
Mayfield. They're not willing to give something for nothing.
- Overflow parking and excessive traffic need resolution. There
are two aspects to the solution:
- Residential permit parking program
- Transportation Allowance/cash out implemented by employers.
Under this program the employer gives the employee a transportation allowance
(ideally equivalent to the real cost of providing a parking place).
The employee chooses whether to use it to pay for parking, or to take
it in cash. This has been extremely successful in reducing car usage
even in southern California!
Note that the two parts must go together or employees will simply park
in adjoining neighborhoods much as Stanford staff do today.
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- Consolidate the parking in structures or underground.
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- Who will occupy the new building?
What is the maximum expected occupancy?
- There is no planned tenant. Usual occupancy is 3/1000 square
feet - about 250 people.
- Are any other buildings in that area unoccupied currently?
- Only the construction site at 1117 California.
- The traffic problem is not just cars but delivery and commercial
vehicles.
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- Don't build the world's tallest two story building. Consider a
liberal setback, step down to one story near the neighborhood, plant
trees to screen it.
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